You have this one little spark that turns you on and then the rest of the process is like digging around in a fucking Port-O-John looking for your watch that just fell in there. You hang out and just try to pick through shit until it works out. And it's hard work. After a certain point, there's a craft to it, where you got to beat it into shape and then you've got to let it go, you really, really do, you know, 'I can't do anymore.' And get out